{"id":13005,"date":"2018-08-03T08:30:04","date_gmt":"2018-08-03T16:30:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/2018\/08\/03\/news-6772\/"},"modified":"2018-08-03T08:30:04","modified_gmt":"2018-08-03T16:30:04","slug":"news-6772","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/2018\/08\/03\/news-6772\/","title":{"rendered":"Windows updaters express frustrations. Microsoft responds."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2017\/09\/windows_patch_security10-100734740-large.3x2.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Credit to Author: Woody Leonhard| Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 08:56:00 -0700<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No doubt you recall patching guru Susan Bradley\u2019s <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/article\/3293440\/microsoft-windows\/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-management-re-windows-updating.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">open letter to Microsoft brass<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, summarizing the results of her Windows update survey. The results were quite damning in many ways, with complaints about the quality and frequency of patches topping the list.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Microsoft has responded to the open letter in a rather roundabout way. Two days after <em>Computerworld<\/em> posted the open letter, Bradley received an email that says:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Service Request # 143\u2026\u2026.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hello Susan,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My name is (redacted), and I\u2019m a Customer Relationship Manager here at the Microsoft corporate offices in Redmond, Washington. Thank you for reaching out.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I would like to let you know that we got your concerns about the Windows 10 patch quality issues that you have brought to our attention. \u00a0I wanted to give you an update and let you know that at this time I working on finding the best venue to bring your concerns to our leadership team who would be better equipped in making any decisions that need to be made.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, somehow, the survey results and open letter turned into a formal Service Request. And the promised follow-up consists of \u201cfinding the best venue to bring your concerns to our leadership team.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yesterday, Bradley received this note from the same Customer Relationship Manager:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hello Susan,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is (redacted) again with Microsoft customer services and support team. I would like to thank you for all the great feedback that you submitted in your previous letter that you sent to Microsoft. \u00a0I would like to tell you that I have forward[ed] your letter to a team that is better equipped to handle the concerns and feedback that you have stated in your letter. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Your letter clearly states the concerns that you have due to the quality and timing of Microsoft updates. \u00a0I would like to add that with Windows 10 Microsoft decided to be more proactive. This has always been the way we keep commercial versions of Windows on the market current. \u00a0There are also bug fixes. These updates can be vital. The Windows software environment and its associated hardware is incredibly complex. When these bugs are fixed, updates have to be issued to move them out to users. You want these updates to make sure everything works as expected. \u00a0Windows 10 is very different from earlier versions of Windows. Earlier versions of Windows consisted of a single product which was updated over time. Windows 10 consists entirely of a base install and then fluid updates. The updates aren&#8217;t add-ons from which to pick and choose but are part of the operating system.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I have provided a link below to our Feedback Hub. \u00a0In the future you could use the link to provide feedback and share your suggestions or comments on issues with Windows products.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/en-us\/p\/feedback-hub\/9nblggh4r32n?activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/en-us\/p\/feedback-hub\/9nblggh4r32n?activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Again, thank you for all the feedback. \u00a0Is there anything else I can do to help? Did you have any other questions or concerns you wanted to discuss? If there are none I will go ahead and close out of your service request.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Which is one heck of an odd thing to say to someone who\u2019s been struggling with \u2013 and vociferously writing about \u2013 bad Windows patches for nearly two decades.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To be sure, Bradley posted a complaint about <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/aka.ms\/AA1aitt\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Patch quality and loss of trust <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">on the Feedback Hub three months ago:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On behalf of your customers and the security ecosystem of Windows 10 please take this feedback seriously: \u00a0Please review the procedures and policies you have in place for servicing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Surface devices should not BSOD on 1803. \u00a0Enterprise detection of May updates should not need metadata revisions. \u00a0We should not be losing Nics in various platforms. We should have trust in the updating process that would let us feel comfortable in installing updates the week they come out not mandate that all of us are waiting and seeing what issues occur. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We, the patching community, your customers have lost trust in your patching processes. \u00a0Please, please fix this. Ensure metadata issues do not occur. Ensure better quality testing is done. \u00a0Ensure feedback processes are strengthened so that customer feedback is acted upon BEFORE issues occur not after Microsoft themselves have to acknowledge the issues.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Which certainly strikes a responsive chord, three months later. Microsoft notes that it has received her feedback. Fat lot of good that&#8217;s done.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(If you can\u2019t vote on her Feedback post, realize that only people actively participating in the \u201cWindows Insider\u201d beta program, logged on with a Windows Insider ID, can vote on Windows Insider posts.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I could pick apart the official response, sentence by sentence, but if you have any experience at all with botched updates, you can insert your own experiences, descriptions and (colorful!) adjectives.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To be clear: I don\u2019t want to hang an individual out to dry. The response was pure Microsoft Party Line, which is to be expected. But it\u2019s also condescending, not just to Bradley, but to the 2,000 or so people who filled out the questionnaire, and the legions of people who struggle to keep Windows updated. They (we!) have legitimate problems with Windows that need to be addressed \u2013 and solved \u2013 at the highest levels.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Add your analyses, experiences, and comments to the accumulated wisdom on the <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.askwoody.com\/2018\/the-official-response-from-microsoft-about-susan-bradleys-questionnaire-results-and-open-letter\/\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AskWoody Lounge<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/article\/3294984\/microsoft-windows\/windows-updaters-express-frustrations-microsoft-responds.html#tk.rss_security\" target=\"bwo\" >http:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/category\/security\/index.rss<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2017\/09\/windows_patch_security10-100734740-large.3x2.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Credit to Author: Woody Leonhard| Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 08:56:00 -0700<\/strong><\/p>\n<article>\n<section class=\"page\">\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No doubt you recall patching guru Susan Bradley\u2019s <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/article\/3293440\/microsoft-windows\/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-management-re-windows-updating.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">open letter to Microsoft brass<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, summarizing the results of her Windows update survey. The results were quite damning in many ways, with complaints about the quality and frequency of patches topping the list.<\/span><\/p>\n<aside class=\"fakesidebar\"><strong>[ Related: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/article\/3269118\/microsoft-windows\/best-places-to-find-windows-10-isos.html#tk.ctw-infsb\">The best places to find Windows 10 ISOs<\/a>]<\/strong><\/aside>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Microsoft has responded to the open letter in a rather roundabout way. Two days after <em>Computerworld<\/em> posted the open letter, Bradley received an email that says:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"jumpTag\"><a href=\"\/article\/3294984\/microsoft-windows\/windows-updaters-express-frustrations-microsoft-responds.html#jump\">To read this article in full, please click here<\/a><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<\/article>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_container_layout":"default_layout","colormag_page_sidebar_layout":"default_layout","footnotes":""},"categories":[11062,10643],"tags":[13764,714,10525],"class_list":["post-13005","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-computerworld","category-independent","tag-pcs","tag-security","tag-windows"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13005","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13005"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13005\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13005"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13005"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.palada.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13005"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}